Revisiting Malice

 I want to revisit the definition of malice.

mal·ice

noun

1. desire to inflict injury, harm, or suffering on another, either because of a hostile impulse or out of deep-seated meanness: the malice and spite of a lifelong enemy.

2. Law . evil intent on the part of a person who commits a wrongful act injurious to others.

Several have claimed that this blog operates under some form of malice.  That it is run by former supporters who owe the school money.  That people who are non-supporters are merely people who would directly benefit from the fall of Creative Frontiers/Robert Adams.

There have been former supporters named publicly by name.  Horrible things said about them.  A comment I received (and refused to publish) yesterday even claimed to have called a former supporters place of work to "report her" as being the owner of this blog.  You want malice?  There is a perfect example.

I feel bad.  But not for things I have said, but that some people who support Robert Adams think that it is appropriate to attack anyone who no longer supports the cause and act upon some unfounded notion that they are me.

Here is a clue for you.  I was NEVER a supporter of Robert Adams.  I was always a skeptic of what was being presented to me.  I questioned some of the actions of the CHPD upon the closing, but even more concerning to me were the actions of the Adams Family and supporters after the fact.

Here is the thing though, if anything I have posted is incorrect, by all means correct it.  If a child is caught in a lie, do we want them to attack the person catching them?  Or own up to it?  Sometimes, there is a reasonable explanation.  Sometimes there isn't, but you own up to it.  Unfortunately, with the CFS case, it just gets worse and worse.  Lies to cover up lies.  Instead of seeing a reasonable explanation and an apology, we see either attacks, more lies, or diversions.

I want to extend a personal apology to the people who have been attacked by these supporters.  The intent of this blog has been to provide a clear source for factual information.  Since then, it has been the goal of some supporters to "expose" my identity.  They have been wrong with every guess, but does that stop them?  Sadly, no.  They move from one person to the next getting more malicious as they move on.  It is odd that they speak of the "false accusations" of Robert Adams, and yet are doing the same thing to former supporters.

I will stand behind my facts.  I will retract untrue statements.  So I ask you again supporters, instead of focusing your energies on attacking the wrong people, why don't you address these issues?  I will post ANY document that refutes any of the information posted here.

Correct me if I am wrong, but don't attack other people because you don't like what I post.

You've Got to Be Kidding Me

Just when you think the claims couldn't get more outlandish, PSP and John Daley come up with more insane "revelations" about the intent of this blog and attacks on former supporters.

PSP 

Just a little tidbit for those, especially the media, who are wondering why these bloggers, small claim filers and non supporters are so malicious. Do your homework and you will discover that many of them have outstanding tuition not paid at CFS, some to the tune of thousands of dollars, and therefore it's in their best financial interest to encourage Mr. Bob and CFS's doom. They just want to get out of paying what they still owe--pretty upstanding citizens aren't they? Not only are they liars but they are thieves.

But...I thought all the computer records were taken?  How could they possibly know who owes the school money unless they also know who they owe money to?  Why would PSP, a non-employee, be privy to private financial information of parents?

I neither owe CFS money nor does CFS owe me money.  Nice try though.  I highly doubt any of the parents filing small claims court cases owe the school money either.  Two of the people I have been accused of being were a long-time former teacher and her husband, neither of which would be in a position to owe the school money.  Another is a grandparent of a child at the school, also who would not owe the school money.  Yet another is one of the parents who has filed a small claims suit, also would not owe the school money.  Are people really buying this garbage?  Liars and thieves?   Can you not possibly fathom that people just had enough of being lied to?  I guess so, because this comment was "liked" by several people already.

Then John Daley chimes in with an equally odd comment, claiming to know information that should be part of confidential records.

John Daley

Well said, and out of this they have responded with I have threatened them or specifically [name] and she has said chpd has been notified of my threats and is investigating, humm I called chpd and sac county to respond and to my surprise they have no record of your complaint [name]and now she claims every time I see her instead of confronting her I scurried away like a little school girl, well [name] you are correct that I have not confronted you because the only time I see you is at my sons school and I am not about to let the likes of you drag him into your pathetic cross hairs. And as for your non confrontational loving friends j&j as you want them called I've seen the video of them attacking a single woman trying to walk away from them and humm why can't he pass a life scan to be employed by a school things that make me go hummm

Trying to decipher what John Daley has written makes my head hurt.  I think he is saying that he tried calling the CHPD regarding the complaint made and they said they had no record of it.  Lucky for you John Daley, I know how to use a phone and called the CHPD to get the info myself.  Amazing that I came up with a complaint number. (#11C92620, in case you are interested)  I have no clue what he is talking about "j&j" and a video of them "attacking a single woman trying to walk away from them"  Is he saying he is privy to some surveillance videos from CFS?  I thought the CHPD had all of those too?  And why would it be ANY of John Daley's business as he is not an employee of the school either.  I'm shocked to hear also that John Daley claims to know that one of the "j's" he mentions couldn't pass a live scan (not life scan as he states)...especially considering this person was at the school, in classrooms daily, with preschool children.  Why would this be allowed if it were true?  Again, why would John Daley be privy to ANY of this information as he wasn't an employee of Creative Frontiers School.  Didn't a parent get attacked on the Facebook page for asking about the safety of her files?  Wasn't it said that John Daley had no interest or access to this information?  I guess that isn't the case anymore.  I guess once you are suspected as being the writer of this blog or a non-supporter, your information is no longer private.

John Daley goes on to post about a "rival" blog he is "developing":

John Daley
stay tuned friends a new blog is being developed and is almost ready to deploy, its being created so as not to affect this site and to allow people to outright discuss their outrage at the other blog site. I don't want to ruffle feather of people who are not involved but something has to be done and a lot needs to be said.

If I could stop laughing long enough, I might have some sort of response, but as of now...laughter is all I can muster.

Seriously supporters?  Stop encouraging the rantings of these two.  Think about the things they are saying.  Do you REALLY agree with what they are saying?  If you chose to still support Robert Adams, despite the blatant lies that you have been told, then go for it.  I won't stand in your way.  Believe it or not, there are people who don't owe Creative Frontiers School a dime who don't support Robert Adams.  I am one of them.  I will experience no financial gain regardless of the outcome of this case.

I said it the other day, I will say it again; TRUTH SEEKING DOES NOT EQUAL MALICE.

Sand is for Building Sandcastles

I'm not sure how many times these same issues need to be addressed....but apparently some people still don't get it and instead choose to continue to keep their heads in the sand and refuse to face up to documented facts. From the Creative Frontiers School Facebook page: 

Tarpaulin Sky Press

Try to look on the bright side, John--with their ridiculousness on par with their malice, and admitting to having filed small claims against Bob, the anything-but-anonymous bloggers will find new ways, daily, of shooting their own "cause" in the foot. Alternately brooding, manic and babbling, moving from building codes to Google AdWords and combing e-Bay to god-knows-what-end, the blog consistently refuses to settle for "irrational and irrelevant" as long as there is a chance of aspiring to "unhinged and wholly absurd." Aside from ad hominem attacks on the Adams family anyone who dares care for them, the bloggers have become, of late, a rare source of laughs during this otherwise grim travesty of due process. (For example, I'm sure I speak for all e-Bay users when I thank these investigative bloggers for bringing our attention to Bob’s impressive 100% positive feedback rating after 625 sales. Anyone looking for a trustworthy seller now knows where to turn!) Honestly, unless we missed the news that Bob will be going to trial for building code issues, then the “anonymous” ones--as the "de facto" voice of a baseless prosecution--really couldn’t be a better asset to the defense.

Malice? Here is the definition from Dictionary.com.

mal·ice

noun

1. desire to inflict injury, harm, or suffering on another, either because of a hostile impulse or out of deep-seated meanness: the malice and spite of a lifelong enemy.

2. Law . evil intent on the part of a person who commits a wrongful act injurious to others.

While I have posted MANY things about Robert Adams, I have no desire to inflict injury, harm or suffering to him.  I merely see inconsistencies and outright lies about what has been said and portrayed to the supporters and general public.  A person who catches someone in a lie and calls them on it us not acting out of malice.  While I am sure many supporters are convinced I have "deep-seated meanness", I think most people have enough logical thought to understand nothing has been posted with malicious intent, unlike much of what has been posted on the Creative Frontiers Facebook page.  Truth-seeking is not an act of malice.

Admitting to having filed a small claims suit?  Ummm no.  Sorry folks, no idea where he gets that from.  Two parents (last time I checked) have recently filed small claims suits against Robert Adams as per the Sacramento County court case lookup info.  Yes, one of those parents has posted a comment here.  Posting in the comments section does not make her me.   She, along with many other former parents, are owed money.  They are fully within their rights to file a claim.  They are owed money.  Wanting their refunds in a timely manner doesn't make them bad people.  I think some need to consider the financial burden some parents experienced.  They paid tuition at Creative Frontiers, some the entire year in advance, and when the school was closed, they had to find schooling for their children elsewhere.  I would think most people would not be able to afford to just ignore this money they are owed.  The Adams family has not given any indication of when they will be issuing refunds, so these parents were left with little other choice.  I will state yet again, that I have not filed a small claims suit against Robert Adams.  I do not plan to file a small claims suit against Robert Adams.  Nowhere on this blog do I ever say that I have filed a small claims suit against Robert Adams.  


As it has been said many times before, things such as lack of credentials, building code violations, and the numerous other instances of dishonesty do not mean Robert Adams is guilty of the child molestation charges he is facing.  They DO raise questions about credibility. The DO point out the numerous times that Mr. Adams, and his family have lied, repeatedly, to people who support them and trusted them.


No member of the Adams family or their supporters have ever been personally attacked on this blog.  Comments have been copied, but with the names of the supporter (even those who make the most asinine comments) have been edited out.  I have made a few exceptions to the rule with a few comments.  I have included the name of John Daley, as he clearly wanted his name known.  I also have used the name of Dan Adams.  After his comment about "the little girl who cried pee pee", on the Sacramento Bee comments section in reference to a 4 year old who reportedly alleged that Robert Adams touched her inappropriately,  I lost any smidgen of respect I might have given him. I have also used the name of Christian Peet, who openly blogs about so-called "falsely accused" convicted pedophiles.  Criticisms have been made of several comments, but these supporters have not been "attacked".


I hardly think that Robert Adams 100% feedback rating on eBay would be something to gloat about considering the unanswered question of how these gift cards came to be. Especially when you consider the numerous repairs the school Mr. Adams loved is in need of.  In addition, as an eBay user, I can look at his feedback and determine that with only 8 of this 625 feedback comments actually being as a seller, he would hardly be considered a "trustworthy seller."   So, no Mr. Peet, you don't speak for all eBay users.  
 
Unless Parisi plans to call in positive feedback comments on eBay as defense of Mr. Adams character, I hardly see how this will be used as an asset for the defense.  I do believe that this information is raising quite a few eyebrows, from supporters and authorities alike.
 

Irrelevant as some believe the information posted here to be, it is certainly more relevant than my name.

Not Really a Big Surprise But...

The property at 6446 Sylvan Road is now up for sale.

I'm sure most saw this coming, but a few will be shocked.

Once Again, Only Slower

It seems apparent that some supporters (I won't name names here but we all know how to correctly spell one of those supporter's names now) still clearly believe that this blog is making up information and posting false or inapplicable information with malicious intent. Let's recap the FACTS to date. If any CFS supporter cares to correct me via a comment and can provide verifying documentation, I will be most happy to post it.

Fact- It has been widely reported that Robert Adams does not have all of the credentials he claims.
Fact- This blog has offered on more that one occasion to post any proof of credentials...if they exist.
Fact- No media outlet has retracted their stories regarding the degrees earned (or not earned) by Robert Adams.  There was a correction printed, but only regarding the dates of the degrees earned from CSU Northridge.  Nothing regarding the other degrees he claims to have, but doesn't.
Fact- The Department of Social Services temporarily suspended the preschool license issued to Robert Adams for Creative Frontiers School as is in their rights as the state licensing issuing agency when they investigate claims such as those made against Robert Adams.
Fact- Robert Adams is facing charges over claims of molestation from seven different sources.  Three of these allegations stem from 2000, one from 2006, and the others are more recent.
Fact- The City of Citrus Heights temporarily suspended the business license of Robert Adams for Creative Frontiers School.
Fact- The City of Citrus Heights gave Robert Adams ample notice prior to the closure of the school to fix the code violations. (same link as above)
Fact- Every building on the CFS campus had at least one item installed without obtaining the proper permits. (same link as above, pages)
Fact- Robert Adams sold the business entity to Zsolt Benedek.  He still owns the property at 6446 Sylvan Road, Citrus Heights, Ca.
Fact- Zsolt Benedek applied for a license with the City of Citrus Heights, but did not fill out the application properly, or provide the City with the additional information they requested. (Same link as above)
Fact- This license application, as Creative Frontiers LLC, was denied.
Fact- Even though they knew there was no way his license would be approved on time, Zsolt Benedek and other members of the Adams family continued to allow supporters to think that it would open on September 6th, 2011 (and more at same link as above, pages 10-13)
Fact- Creative Frontiers School supporters have attacked anyone who even slightly questions the credibility of what has been stated by the Adams family. (too many links to list)
Fact- A civil lawsuit has been filed against Mr. Adams. (Case info can be looked up here.)
Fact- More than one small claims lawsuit has been filed against Mr. Adams for tuition refunds not issued. (Case info can be looked up here, same link as above)
Fact- I do not have a small claims court suit pending against Mr. Adams. ( I suppose you will just have to take my word for it.  My name is none of those listed.  Promise.)
Fact- All of the above are factual statements which can be backed up with actual documents.  They are not opinion.  They are not hearsay.  They are not misconceptions.
Fact- Every guess that has been thrown out there as to my identity has been wrong.
Fact- Knowing my name will not make any of the above more or less true.

C'mon CFS supporters.  Are you for real?  You really want to believe that everything above is just a bunch of lies despite seeing clearly the documents that prove otherwise?  I'm sorry you have been lied to, but it hasn't been me telling the lies.

So please, if anyone has documentation as to where any of this information is not factual, please do share.  As I have said before, I will post any comment that can factually dispute any of the above information.  I've made that clear.  I will not post pointless guesses at my identity, links to other blogs, or swearing.  Please also note that comments go into moderation before they are approved.  Sometimes it takes me a while to approve a comment, but this doesn't mean I won't approve it, just that I am not at a computer.  There have been 331 comments I have published and only 6 I have not...I'd say that's a pretty good ratio.

Just Keep Guessing

Yes, I know I am supposed to be on a break, but seriously, I can't help but address this.

John Daley

Im really tired of the idiotic half truths or out right lies they are posting. They keep harping on all these violations of building codes and how unsafe the school was. ! Here is what I have to say in the matter. ( BULL ) I was there the electrical wire hanging down from the building, first it wasnt an electrical wire it was a phone line and a student would have had to be 7 foot tall to even reach it, second the shape of the buildings yes had some dry rot on the outside wood paneling. Replaced and painted in a couple hours. Not dangerous to anyone. I was there for the fire Marshall visit and she passed everything with flying colors then was TOLD to come back and go over the place with a microscope by her boss, her words not mine! Pool was never closed and I saw the paperwork where the repairs had been made two years ago. As for bobs credentials I again was there when [S] faxed all of those to the bee to shut them up, and they recanted only part of it. I have two BA degrees and they are from five college's and university but I still have them. [J] and j&j hide behind fake names and venomous blogs and lies and say they are affraid of attacks on them and their friends. Well I have tried to post on their blog and have never seen anything posted because I disagreed with the lies they posted.
they have continually attacked me and my family and still I have not used a fake name and take responsibility for anything and everything I have said or posted, so yes the mayor and city manager and by far the police chief of citrus heights are corrupt and in fact did screw up in this entire investigation and are covering up their inept abilities. And yes miss blogger I know this for a fact all the way up to miss mayor. Ask her what happened to the grants and funds for the teen center she ran ( into) the ground you want an investigation start with the people who are trying to cover their butts because they blew it, and I for one am looking forward to the civil action suit thats coming.
Oh and personal note to [j], [h], [S], and [J] and [j] who are involved with the blog spell it right my name is John Daley and you can come at me with everything you got you are still slimy little cowards who will get whats coming to you.
I do apologize to any innocent persons I may have offended but I am finally offended and just pissed off being compared to hitler and his followers that went over the top. So to the Adams family you have my support to my dying breath. Along with my family and friends without question, thanks for letting me vent on the miscreants that wouldn't know the truth to save their lives.

Dear John Daley (Since I've never used your name, and you insist I spell it right, I won't bother editing it out),

My name is not [J], [J], [J], [H], or [S].  Wrong on all 5 counts.  You know, there are a lot of people in the Greater Sacramento area.  I'm sure if you keep guessing, you will get it right eventually.  You will probably loose all CFS supporters in the process, but it seems quite important to you, so keep trying.

The building code violations posted here are not something I made up.  They are available to read for then general public to decide what they like with them.  All reports are listed to the right side of the screen.

There are only 5 comments I have never posted.  Two were links to other blogs.  The others were personal attacks on people or used violent, inappropriate language.  Which are you taking credit for?

Attacking you and your family?  When?  I've never once used your name.  After that...you've lost me.

Compared to Hitler? Where?

I'm confused as to why you think you are justified to randomly accusing people of writing this blog...you are only making one person look bad...and it isn't me. 

So you have 5 people to apologize to, because I just looked in the mirror and and my drivers license, I assure you, I am none of the people you listed.  Besides, I thought Dan Adams had it all figured out that I am "S.L. in Oregon."  By the way, that's quite wrong as well.

I suggest you quit before you get further behind and lose even more supporters for the Adams family you love so much.  Personal attacks don't gain you supporters, they loose you supporters.


Sincerely,

DoubtingCFS
Not [J], [J], [J], [H], or [S]

I'm going back to my vacation now.

Taking a Break

Just wanted to let readers know we will be taking a brief hiatus for the holidays.  We will return 11/26, but will be checking e-mails.

I hope you all enjoy your Thanksgiving celebrations.

Update to City of Citrus Heights Business File

Link to new correspondence from the City of Citrus Heights.

As it might be confusing what you are actually looking at, I will explain a bit.  When Robert Adams had his business license temporarily suspended in July, his attorney asked for an appeal hearing.  That date was set for mid-August.  Then Robert Adams asked for the hearing to be postponed to a "mutually agreeable date" in the future.  He then sold the "business entity" to his daughter's boyfriend and they attempted to re-open under a new license.  That license has been denied.  The hearing for the original license has yet to occur.

The letter you are looking at is a correspondence between the City's finance director and an attorney for Robert Adams.  The attorneys for Mr. Adams are giving dates for their unavailability...which is odd, seeing as though the hearing was agreed to be on a "mutually agreeable date".  The finance director points out that it would be easier to just tell her a few dates that WOULD work, instead of giving her dates from now until next June that do not work.  There was no need for legal correspondence with a proof of service.  She also points out that the letter was clearly cut and copied from a letter sent to the Department of Social Services, as they didn't even bother to change the name at the top of the proof of service.

At the going rate for attorneys, I'm sure that could have reimbursed at least 2 of the parents who are owed refunds.

Sadly the money was spent instead on pointless correspondence.

In Simplest Terms

I have to say, I'm not quite sure how I can make this any clearer to some people.

The infamous PSP on the Creative Frontiers Facebook page:

Absolutely and me too! Sandi Adams is actually a co-owner of CFS. She was never implicated in ANY false allegations so wondering why the elementary and preschool was raided and immediately shut down due to unsubstantiated allegations against 1 person that ultimately showed they were false, leaving not only Mr. Bob but the co-owner of the school, Sandi, without any potential of income now and in the future? The police, city and DSS secured CFS Inc's. financial doom by doing this--they certainly have not done it to other schools like the above Woodbine so why CFS? It certainly wasn't because of the fire inspector's yearly report in which they passed in June 2011 and then they were mysteriously cited in July 2011. I personally think it was a trigger happy city police department and or a DA's office looking to make a name for themselves and protect themselves against impending furloughs or budget cuts--why else?

Okay lets try this again and I will put in in the simplest terms I can come up with.

Woodbine is a PUBLIC preschool. It is run by a state/federal taxpayer funded school district.

Creative Frontiers School is a PRIVATE for-profit school owned by Robert and Saundra Adams.

These are two completely different entities. Different rules and laws apply. It is not arbitrary. The rules are set forth by CA state law.

The entire staff of Woodbine could be brought up on charges and the school would still open the next day because it is run by a taxpayer supported school district. A new principal, teachers and staff would be brought in immediately. However, when the owner of a private school is charged with felony counts of child abuse, the school closes. Please reread that last sentence, until you can grasp that concept.

It is unfortunate for Sandi Adams that the school is closed.  I agree.  Where though, other than on the business license, is she listed as being owner of the school?  Certainly not on the Creative Frontiers School website.  Where has she asked to step up and run the school in her husband's absence?  It wasn't her role in the past and it doesn't appear to be the plan currently.

Going back to PSPs comment, where does it say the original allegations in the DSS report were false?  I can actually answer my own question....It doesn't say that anywhere.  Just because they were not included in the arrest warrant doesn't mean they were untrue.  They might be included later, they might not.  Doesn't mean it didn't happen.  

Yet again we are being directed back to "the fire inspector's yearly report in which they passed in June 2011". *sigh*  Please reference the City of Citrus Heights file on the business license here and our explanation here. 

I hardly think that the arrest of Robert Adams on 6 felony and 1 misdemeanor count of child molestation can be played down as a "trigger happy" Citrus Heights PD or a DA "looking to make name for themselves".  Why else PSP?  Really?  SEVEN different children that we know of claim to be molested by Mr. Adams and you think that the only reason the DA is prosecuting the case is to make a name for themselves?  That comment is just ludicrous.

Of course that isn't all, Christian Peet, in his infinite wisdom has to add to it;

The motivations remain fairly nebulous to me, but the screw-ups are plain as day. Most often these things are just the result of compounded mistakes, with no real malice except on the part of people like Irma, etc. Perhaps a deal will work out for all involved. Something like this: DA's office drops charges (now's a good time, given that the Sandusky case shows what a real case looks like). In return, the Adams and all the parents whose children were needlessly devastated by the handling of the school closing and the forced relocation don't sue city, county, and state officials. Bob takes a well-earned early retirement (unfortunately, he will never be work around strangers' kids again, thanks to this disaster). And the school opens under another Adams family member. Done. Blue skies. Birds chirping. Kids back in the playground, happy, just as it was for 35 years prior . . .

‎*Sorry* for the flourish at the end. I'm just so sick of this needless misery. I like to think that somehow justice will prevail for a family that's given so much.

Wasn't Christian Peet the forerunner in the "it's all a conspiracy" campaign?  Wasn't he the one accusing District Attorney Scully of "trying to make a name"?  Suggesting that parents have possible lawsuits against the actions of the "city, county, and state officials" is beyond nonsense.  I find the comparison to the Sandusky case as a "real case" ironic given the fact that Sandusky claims that he never molested any of the 8 children he is charged with molesting...he was only "horsing around" and the hugging and touching wasn't intended to be sexual.  I'm pretty sure many of the same things have been said about Mr. Adams.

"I could say that I have done some of those things. I have horsed around with kids, I have showered after workouts. I have hugged them, and I have touched their legs without intent of sexual contact," he told Costas in an interview that aired Monday night. "I shouldn't have showered with those kids."

Tell me how Peet can be so certain that the charges against Sandusky are founded and the charges against Robert Adams are false and part of an elaborate conspiracy? Was Peet also in those Penn State showers as well as under Adams' desk? Is he privy to inside information no one else has? How exactly is Peet determining the truth here? How are any of the CFS supporters determining truth? Are you all refusing to consider the possibility that some or all of these charges are true because you would then have to admit that you made a grave error in choosing CFS and put your child at risk? Trust me, all parents of the former students are grappling with this concern right now. Most I have spoken to have been shocked by the information which has been revealed since the date of closure. All was not well at CFS--regardless of how much you wish it was.

PSP has to come back to add, 

Yes, I also believe justice will prevail and I too am sick of this needless misery. As pleasant as it is for me to hope and wish that birds could chirp again and there would be blue skies for the Adams's sake***, unfortunately Bob and Sandi were hurt intentionally by screw ups and compounded mistakes by supposed 'professionals' that have impacted them financially, emotionally and physically, now and in the future. Personally I don't think Bob and Sandi are financially able to just say que sera sera and take an early retirement and call it a day if the DA's office 'decides' it wants to drop the case with the contingency that no one can sue them. Even if the girls ran it, there is still the stigma Bob, Sandi and the Adams girls will have to live with forever, decreased enrollment because of that stigma and there needs to be compensation for this which I believe there will be. I would also think that many parents would sue the city and gvmt agencies for this too because CFS families were abruptly and unnecessarily dis-located and their children tramatized by the police raid. In America like anywhere else in the world, you pay for what you take. You can't just take something (i.e. Bob and the Adams finances, physical and emotional health and freedom) without paying for it, or steal it and try to give it back because now it's damaged and beyond repair. And that's all I have to say about that....! :)

So which is it PSP?  Did they screw up or are they intentionally trying to hurt the Adams family?  You can't intentionally screw up.  The only thing I can question about the actions of the Citrus Heights Police Department is the manner and timing in which the school was closed down, not the fact that it is closed.  Not the fact that they are investigating the allegations against Mr. Adams.  Quite simply the claims of lawsuits towards the DA and City for investigating these claims, is silly.  Sure they can try.  But sadly these threats are as empty as the threats to sue this blog. Gosh how I wish that was all PSP had to say about that...but no, she adds:

Ooops, I fibbed. I do have just one more thing to say. If the DA decided to drop the charges (obv due to negligence in performing due diligence) in exchange for the family and/or parents not suing gvmt entities, am I wrong thinking that would then be a form of extortion?

Yes PSP, you are wrong.  For many reasons, but I will just focus on your claims of extortion. 

ex·tor·tion 

n.

1. The act or an instance of extorting.

2. Illegal use of one's official position or powers to obtain property, funds, or patronage.

3. An excessive or exorbitant charge.

4. Something extorted.

So ummm, no, *IF* the DA dropped charges with the contingency that they not be sued, it still wouldn't be extortion.   

Christian comes back to add,

Well said, Patricia. I was just being "nice," re the lost revenue, legal fees, defamation, etc.

Re "extortion," though, I think it's fairly common practice, though there is certainly a different name for it :-) It's not my ballpark, though. I'm quite sure Linda P. knows precisely how to handle that end, however, and will do a bang-up job. . . .

That comment would be laughable if the subject matter at hand wasn't so disturbing.  I just won't even go there.

Creative Frontiers was not treated like Woodbine because CFS is NOT Woodbine.  Public, district run school VS private, owner run school.  However, the mere fact that the school WAS closed was fully justified by the code violations and abuse allegations. State law was followed. Let me ask you, PSP, if your child was one who made a disclosure, would you want the police and state doing their job or would you want them to look the other way so a sweet little school could stay open and no one would have their lives upended? Just ignore the words of the children and the witnesses, brush them under the rug, and stay with the status quo? Well, would you? Folks at Penn State ignored the abuse and look what happened. More children were hurt. PSP, you really might want to stop and think. Each of the children who have disclosed have parents and families who care deeply for them. Each of those children are confused and hurting right now. How can you simply negate and ignore their pain? Shame on you.

Refunds on Their Way?

Curious that Robert Adams is selling $1700 worth of Home Depot gift cards on eBay.

(Please click on images to enlarge)

A listing:

Mr. Adams' payment instructions:

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Does this mean some parents can be expecting refunds soon?