This is the most recent ridiculous comment. Name removed, for purposes of posting here:
I agree Dan, but also, I can't help but think that the kids who have been recruited as victims will also suffer tremendously. I'm not saying that true victims of molestation shouldn't be taken seriously. They absolutely should be! But I believe that the concept of molestation has to be carefully considered before accusations are made, both for the benefit of the accuser and the accused. This situation just reeks of Irma making a complaint that clearly fit the criteria of molestation, but then when her complaint turned out to be fraudulent, solicitation for alternative victims began. There are plenty of children who are being blatantly abused, neglected, and molested who are being ignored while these children are being led to believe that they were molested by someone they respected when they didn't feel that way before authority figures implied there was danger by their actions and this so called "investigation". Before strangers needed them to serve as pawns in a bureaucratic agenda, they were kids, and now they are victims. They probably don't even know how vulnerable they are to further exploitation by these strangers if this case goes to trial, because these people have already shown themselves to be untrustworthy and ruthless in achieving their goal at all costs. Do the kids and the kids' parents have any idea that their children will be considered just collateral damage in this farce?
This whole fiasco is a mockery of those who are truly suffering from crimes actually committed and not being dealt with while resources are being spent on this train wreck. The people involved in this have some explaining to do
Are they insane? If the children are proven by a court of law to have been victimized, only one person "recruited" them and that person is their abuser.
Not only is this ridiculous, insulting comment allowed to sit on the CFS Facebook Site, it is also then "liked" by Mr. Adams family members, a daughter and his brother. I'm all for First Amendment rights. Supporters can say what they want regarding the case, but I am surprised that the Adams' family allows this comment, along with many more offensive comments to stay up on their PUBLIC Facebook page. Is this the image they want the public to have of them?
Reactions were fairly immediate. One former supporter said, on an article written by Sam Stanton at the Sacramento Bee
[Name Removed] has posted on the Creative Frontiers Open Group Facebook page that the victims were "Chosen" and put up there intentionally by their parents and others to get Mr. Bob! That is the most ridiculous, immoral, uneducated and uninformed comment I have read yet. I am embarrassed she would say such a ludicrous thing. Shame on her!
Support for Mr. Adams is going to continue to dwindle down to nothing if this kind of behavior is allowed to continue. Ironically the supporter who posted the above comments regarding the children who have "been recruited as victims" claimed earlier in the week:
You know Dan, the law works both ways. If Bob can be put in this ridiculous situation, then there's absolutely no reason why legal action against the Sac Bee and the posters can't be initiated immediately. Just because these people aren't using their real names to post doesn't mean they can't be easily located via an IP address obtained by a subpena served on the Sac Bee. The Bee has allowed, and therefore encouraged, these comments to go on and on. The posters have implied that they have inside information in this situation numerous times to lead readers to believe in Bob's guilt before he was even charged. They have attacked people like me who have simply posted my experience with CFS and my opinion about the situation, to discredit any real insight I might be able to provide. The Sac Bee should be held accountable for being irresponsible, and these yet to be identified individuals should be charged with appropriate crimes they've committed against the individual parents, the parents as a whole, the school, the Adams daughters, and Bob. I believe there was an attorney in Orangevale who posted here a few weeks back who might be willing to take on the case on behalf of those who choose to participate. If not, we'll find another.
I would focus energies on printing hard copies of everything that's been posted Dan, in preparation. Don't bother responding anymore. Let's just take this to the next level and hold them all accountable to get it stopped once and for all.
Of all of the 7 charges, only 2 came after Ms. Merten's complaint (possibly just 1. There is no date on the complaint regarding child, "Jane Doe" that indicates when the report was made.) That's the tricky part when you are trying to bend facts to suit your opinion. Annoying things like dates get in the way. In addition, no where has it ever been posted that Ms. Merten's complaint was "unfounded". Why it wasn't included in the case summary and arrest warrant, we do not know.
Wait, who is discrediting people? People posting here at Doubting CFS? The SacBee posters? Sam Stanton? The Sacramento Bee themselves? What's that saying? "Now that's the pot calling the kettle black."
Dwindle. That's just how I see my support for CFS going. Who made this poster the judge and jury where she can determine who is a "true victim of molestation"? Was she in the interviewing rooms? Is she privvy to information that no one else has? I was especially furious when I read this quote by the same female poster on the CFS page:
ReplyDelete"But I believe that the concept of molestation has to be carefully considered before accusations are made, both for the benefit of the accuser and the accused."
Since when does the police or even society have to consider the benefit of the accused when an accusation has been made? Think about it. Do the police consider the implications on the accused and his family when a man is arrested for theft or rape or murder? No. Our judicial system is set up to protect victims and to determine the guilt of those accused. The benefit of the accused is only considered if he is found innocent-his name would be cleared or if he's found guilty-his life experiences and mental and physical health will be considered by a judge and jury when determining sentencing. It completely rattles me that those who still support CFS seem to be on a different planet or at least not in the country I choose to live in. For me, right now, I'm praying for the alleged victims and waiting for the details to come out at trial.
The Bee article you mentioned in this blog, could I beg of you to share which article it is? There are so many that it's like a needle in a haystack anymore. Thank you!!
ReplyDeleteI think i linked it above, but here it is again, just in case: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/09/09/3895738/authorities-first-investigated.html
ReplyDeleteA jury of his peers.. a jury of parents, grandparents, brothers, sisters, aunts and uncles. I am a grandparent, a parent, an aunt, a sister and one thing I can say for sure, if I was on that jury and I had one inkling he was guilty, I would lay down my life to assure he is put where he belongs. A place where he cannot molest again.
ReplyDeleteIf one of those victims happened to be related to me in any way, or if I knew one, I would be diligent in demanding justice. I would support the victims and defend them against all the negativity the CFS mob throws their way.
I hope those few supporters realize that no matter how many times they discount the truth, the victims statements, witnesses and public opinion, this jury will weigh the facts, deliberate and listen carefully to all evidence presented. I pray they come to a speedy and fair conclusion. Then the judge can decide how long the state will house this man who took advantage of these innocent victims.
No special considerations will be extended in prison. If he fakes another heart disorder, (or even if he has a legitimate one) they will accomodate him in their own state of the art, medical facility. Beds are specially designed for handcuffs and leg irons. No ICU at Mercy San Juan. No siree Bob.
In closing, I know some of the supporters are watching this blog, so I will pass on a little tidbit. Remember one thing.. if you are one of those begging for justice.. you'd better be careful what you wish for.. because I predict you will see your "PRECIOUS KING" in prison. How many of you will fill out the forms, go through the security measures to get on a visitation list and actually go see him?